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September 17, 2005

Racist teenage idiot logic

Posted by The J Train

Via the Straight Dope Message Board (my favorite site on the internet, where I'm known as DoctorJ), here is the tale of a well-deserved ass-beating.

This 18-year-old genius wore to his high school a shirt on which a Klansman is waving to a couple driving away in a "just married"-type car...dragging two black men on nooses behind it.  The interval between his revealing of the shirt and his old-school beat-down was so short that it would have to have been measured by special instruments.

(The SDMB discussion is mostly about how one should feel toward his attackers, and appropriate punishment for them.  It's an interesting topic.  It's the reverse of the debate over hate crimes--should we soften the punishment for a crime just because the offender's motives were generally acceptable to our society?)

Even in the Cafe Press era, it scares the hell out of me that enough people find this image endearing that someone is selling them T-shirts.  That didn't stop me from laughing out loud at this line, the best I've read in a news story in a long while:

"I'm not racist or anything," he said. "It's just, some people I hate, some people I don't get along with. And black people just happen to be the ones because they think they're better than everyone else."

Couldn't make that up if I tried.

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Yeah, Black Power, power to the people. Okay, so I'm trying to be funny, well, maybe not funny, but still, it's the same reaction. Most people think only white people can be racist or commit hate crimes, it isn't so, there are plenty of racists of all colors. The fact that this kid is an idiot doesn't excuse the fact that he was attacked unprovoked. Most people have posted that he did provoke the attack by wearing the shirt, but by doing so he clearly exercised his damn right to free speech, which among other things allows the stupid KKK to burn their crosses and say nigger, and allows the Black Panthers and other Black hate groups do their own racist speeches and assemblies and say cracker or honky, or white devil, or down with whitey, or fuck tha' police. We are forced to tolerate these things because we are americans, and because every single person has the right to be hateful about whatever the hell they want, but no one has the right to hurt someone in order to force their beliefs upon another. Do I think this little racist son of a bitch got what he deserved, oh yeah, I'd probably have given it to him too, but should the other person go unpunished to the full extent of the law, hell no, because if I say something that no one else agrees with, I don't want some jerkoff attacking me, because it's my right to do so.

I don't think I'll put my info, just in case, but I'm sure at least some people get the point.

"doesn't excuse the fact that he was attacked unprovoked."

Of course, sure, there was no provocation. I don't know what high school you went to, but you don't insult someone without expecting a response.

The idea that if you wear it, but don't speak it is cowardly.

Anonymous;

Superfluous precaution. Nobody cares that much.

However tolerant, reasonable, civilised, urbane, cosmopolitan, self-controlled or centred one might be, there is always some loud-mouthed, knuckle-dragging, malodorous yahoo who just insists on a spanking.

Nothing personal.

It's fascinating that Anonymous starts with the classic white-victim line "not only whites are racist", which is, you know, technically true, except that black folks don't have a long history of lynching white folks or anyone else for that matter.

And then, unsurprisingly, he/she/it is untrackable.

Okay.

The anonymous poster does have a point. However I think the depiction of the execution of two blacks (you do remember that the people who get tied to cars and dragged a few miles generally are alive at the start at the process and dead at the end of it?), let alone the invocation of the Klan and it's history, and the cheery newlyweds on top of it count as "fighting words," which are NOT protected speech.

I despair that much of the time that violence is seen as an acceptable solution, whatever the problem, and whether covertly or overtly encouraged. But I do understand why this kid got punched.

(Meh, I could go WAY too much into deconstructing this crap, but I'll stop there)

I hate to troll this thing up, but I think that anonymous has a valid point, there are a lot of people who think that whites are the only racists that exist in this country or the world for that matter, but that doesn't have anything to do with the story. And Don, you are right on, I don't think anybody should care that much. I really hate to comment on comments, just seems rude, so I suppose I'll just get to the point. The fact that someone is a racist, wears racist clothes or says something racist, much like the crazy ass lady who walks up and down Tejon Street in Colorado Springs screaming and yelling racial epithets, slurs, and accusations at all the people walking around, whether they be white, black, native american, indian, asian or whatever, if I've left out your race I apologize, I'm not trying to name all the races in the world, it doesn't give anybody the right to attack them. This kid just got a little bop on the head, he deserved more, but the law protects his right to be an idiot, just like it does mine and that crazy lady's, and yeah, I know I'm an idiot, you don't have to tell me.

Meh. I've worn offensive shirts to school before. It might be my 6'3 stature, but ive never had any violence problems. And my school is fairly ethniclly diverse. The kids shirt didn't need to be worn in school, but even still, if i saw the same shirt with two irish people being dragged, i would have told the principle. Perhaps its animalistic behavior by those who think that their being 'Kept down by the man' than keeps racism alive today. I'm pretty confident that the same thing has happened in reverse and we just havn't heard about it, nor will we.

Meh. I've worn offensive shirts to school before. It might be my 6'3 stature, but ive never had any violence problems. And my school is fairly ethniclly diverse. The kids shirt didn't need to be worn in school, but even still, if i saw the same shirt with two irish people being dragged, i would have told the principle. Perhaps its animalistic behavior by those who think that their being 'Kept down by the man' than keeps racism alive today. I'm pretty confident that the same thing has happened in reverse and we just havn't heard about it, nor will we.

Meh. I've worn offensive shirts to school before. It might be my 6'3 stature, but ive never had any violence problems. And my school is fairly ethniclly diverse. The kids shirt didn't need to be worn in school, but even still, if i saw the same shirt with two irish people being dragged, i would have told the principle. Perhaps its animalistic behavior by those who think that their being 'Kept down by the man' than keeps racism alive today. I'm pretty confident that the same thing has happened in reverse and we just havn't heard about it, nor will we.

Meh. I've worn offensive shirts to school before. It might be my 6'3 stature, but ive never had any violence problems. And my school is fairly ethniclly diverse. The kids shirt didn't need to be worn in school, but even still, if i saw the same shirt with two irish people being dragged, i would have told the principle. Perhaps its animalistic behavior by those who think that their being 'Kept down by the man' than keeps racism alive today. I'm pretty confident that the same thing has happened in reverse and we just havn't heard about it, nor will we.

Meh. I've worn offensive shirts to school before. It might be my 6'3 stature, but ive never had any violence problems. And my school is fairly ethniclly diverse. The kids shirt didn't need to be worn in school, but even still, if i saw the same shirt with two irish people being dragged, i would have told the principle. Perhaps its animalistic behavior by those who think that their being 'Kept down by the man' than keeps racism alive today. I'm pretty confident that the same thing has happened in reverse and we just havn't heard about it, nor will we.

that shirt is funny! where can i pick up one for myself?

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