Doug Feith on torture: Removal of clothing is different from naked

Doug Feith has some very precise ideas about humane treatment, which he shared with Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) during his recent testimony on torture.

Feith thinks that 20-hour interrogations are humane, but not 28-hour interrogations. Also,  he stresses that removal of clothing is not the same thing as naked. Watch.

Speaking of sickos, Hasani Gittens of the New York Post is making fun of an alleged member of Al Qaeda who was sexually abused in custody.

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[cfrost]

Doug Feith quoted by Philippe Sands in Vanity Fair May 2008:

“This year I was really a player,” Feith said, thinking back on 2002 and relishing the memory. I asked him whether, in the end, he was at all concerned that the Geneva decision might have diminished America’s moral authority. He was not. “The problem with moral authority,” he said, was “people who should know better, like yourself, siding with the assholes, to put it crudely.”

General Tommy Franks on Doug Feith quoted by Bob Woodward in his book “Plan of Attack” (page 281):

"I have to deal with the stupidest fucking guy on the planet almost every day."

When the time hopefully comes, these shitheads should be very grateful the court in The Hague does not condone torture.

[Eric Jaffa]

Lindsay Beyerstein -

Can you give us Feith's argument for those of us who don't want to watch him?

[Lindsay Beyerstein]

It's not an argument, per se... Nadler asks Feith about 28-hour interrogations, and Feith gets really emphatic that these are only 20-hour interrogations, as if this is a critical moral distinction to make. Nadler chides him about it. Then Nadler moves on to asking Feith whether it's human to make a prisoner sit around naked for hours, amongst other deprivations. Feith, very animatedly, stresses that "removing clothing" is not the same as "naked."

[TB]

Doug Feith is the Ralph Wiggum of American politics ... I'm impressed he can form a semi-coherent sentence, but asking for logic?

Might as well ask a stone to recite Shakespeare.

[Daniel]

Getting patted down by a female soldier is sex abuse? Several years ago in Manhattan a jailed muslim terrorst gouged out the eye of a corrections officer with a weapon fashioned from a comb. That inmate hadn't be patted down. No, pat the bastard down and give him a good kick if he doesn't comply. Prisoners forfeit certain liberties; once certainly is that of indignation over his warped sense off modesty.

I do think that it is true: radical feminists will willingly, submitt to the cruel dictates of Islam if it allows them to score a point against the "white patriarchy".

[pretzelattack]

Several years ago in Manhattan a jailed muslim terrorst gouged out the eye of a corrections officer with a weapon fashioned from a comb. That inmate hadn't be patted down.

and where did we hear this? little green footballs? newsmax?

[pretzelattack]

ok, removing clothes is not the same as naked. but, and this is central to my point, when you remove someone's clothes, they are, in fact, naked.

[Norman Costa]

Daniel,

Let's see if I got this right. Corrections officers in Manhattan (I assume you mean NYC) did not pat down a jailed muslim terrorist because, as a matter of jail policy (or the personal sentiments of the officers) it would violate his 'warped sense of modesty."

I may have missed something, but the corrections system I know in Manhattan is not PC about doing a cavity search for weapons and contraband, not to mention a pat down.

Are we talking about the same Manhattan we all know and love so well? Are we talking about the same time-space dimension?

Also, how do we go from allegations of sexual abuse in Guantanamo to pat down to eye gouging in Manhattan to radical feminists to cruel Islam to white patriarchy? Wow!

Did you see the funny commercial for Cable TV that goes from 'puppy dog food' to Satellite TV companies hate puppies in about six steps?

[Dunc]

Prisoners forfeit certain liberties

Are you aware of the legal distinction between convicts and suspects?

[Lindsay Beyerstein]

This wasn't a pat-down for security reasons. This was something the interrogator allegedly did to him as part of his interrogation.

Remember the Abu Ghraib pictures of detainees sexually humiliating detainees? That's the kind of tactics we're talking about. The book/documentary "Standard Operating Procedure" explains how they learned those tricks at GITMO.