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September 02, 2004

Where was Mary Cheney?

Kraoh asks Where's Mary Cheney?:

I really, really hope there's a good reason why Mary Cheney didn't appear with the rest of her family at the end of Dick Cheney's speech at the Convention tonight. I may not vote for the guy, but I've admired his chutzpah and sincerity thus far. Please, Dick, don't give me a reason to hate you, that the Alan Keyes of the party played any role in this. Please, please tell me she just had a stomach flu or something.

Newsday explains that Cheney's gay daughter was good enough to attend the RNC but not good enough to sit on stage with her family:

Cheney recently did break with Bush on an issue important to his conservative base, saying he doesn't believe there needs to be a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage but that states should decide. Cheney's daughter, Mary, is a lesbian. She did not join her family on stage but was in the hall for her father's speech. Cheney spokeswoman Anne Womack said it was Mary Cheney's decision not to join the rest of the family on the stage.

Let's assume that it was Mary chose to quarantine herself from her all-American family. I ask what kind of father would allow his own child to abase herself like that. Obviously Cheney has no pride in his name or his family. If he did, he would have denounced Alan Keyes for impugning his daughter's honor.

Vito Corelone said it best in The Godfather:

Vito Corleone: "Ya spend time with your family?"

Man: "Sure I do."

Corleone: "Good ... because a man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."


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Thanks for linking my post. However, I think you're assuming a lot about the situation here. The main problem is that WE DO NOT KNOW WHY MARY DIDN'T GO ON STAGE - and that even that article from Newsday doesn't say anything more than that she decided not go out there. Imaging my dad were to become a famous leader some day: if I don't want to be on stage, regardless of my reasons, I don't want my dad to try to force me out against my will. Your post here implies that Cheney should have really applied pressure on her, and that by not doing so, he wasn't being a good family man. I disagree. A good father, in my book, would've offered a live-and-let-live attitude, respecting her autonomy and letting her decide what she was comfortable with.

In any event, until more comes out, we don't know why she chose not to go out, as far as I know, only Alan Keyes has said anything negative about her. I don't think she, or her father, are afraid of Alan Keyes.

Here's what Keyes said about Mary Cheney:

The 09/01/04 Chicago Tribune reports today that Keyes believes that homosexuals are "selfish hedonists." Indeed, Keyes said,

"I have said that if you are actively engaging in homosexual relations, those relations are about selfish hedonism."


"If my daughter were a lesbian, I'd look at her and say, `That is a relationship that is based on selfish hedonism.' I would also tell my daughter that it's a sin, and she needs to pray to the Lord God to help her to deal with that sin."

Keyes was asked whether he thought Mary Cheney was a selfish hedonist, given that she's a lesbian. Keyes said,

"Of course she is. That goes by definition. Of course she is."

We know why Keyes thinks homosexuals are selfish hedonists: Sex has a function -- procreation. If you engage in -- well -- non-functional sex, then you're a hedonist. And selfish. Keyes' view is too boring to comment on; in fact it's just neanderthal.

Nevertheless, the man who was apparently asked to come to Illinois from Maryland to run for the US Senate has gotten some criticism from his fellow Republicans. Bush-Cheney '04 Spokesman Steve Schmidt said Keyes' remarks were "inappropriate." John McCain said the remarks were "inappropriate" but he had already said "I think it's clear we lose Illinois."

At least a spokesman for Bush/Cheney criticized Keyes. That's a step in the right direction.

as far as I know, only Alan Keyes has said anything negative about her.

Excuse me???

Kraorh, do you really need to be reminded that the 2004 RNC platform -- along with several campaign speakers -- calls for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Don't you think it's a little "negative" to say that Mary Cheney doesn't deserve the same rights as straight people?

Christ, I feel like Talia Shire here: "Read the platform, read the platform! That's your party, that's your party!"

"Our platform highlights the principles that unite our party," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, the platform chairman, said the opening day of the Republican convention.


Kraorh wrote:

The main problem is that WE DO NOT KNOW WHY MARY DIDN'T GO ON STAGE.

Well, sure, but you invited speculation with your original post. In fact, you are the one who initially raised the possibility that Mary's absence might have something to do with Republican anti-gay bigotry.

Here's what we know: Mary Cheney was at the convention, and seen sitting in her father's box earlier in the week. As you say, she is is working on her father's campaign -- in fact, she's one of his top campaign aides. But she did not appear at his side on Wednesday night, and she was absent again last night as well. Cheney's other daughter, her husband, and their kids were all on stage. I don't know if Mary's partner was at the convention or not. A spokesman for Dick Cheney said it was Mary's choice not to appear on stage with her father and the rest of her family.

So let me ask you this -- if her conspicuous absence didn't have anything to do with her sexual orientation, why *do* you think she didn't appear on stage last night or the night before?

[crossposted at In the Mouth of Madison]

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