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September 16, 2005

America's Worst Suburb

Posted by Thad

Via the LA Times, I see that the Gretna City Council have passed a resolution supporting their police chief's indefensible decision to block the Crescent City Bridge, thus keeping tens of thousands of people trapped in and around the Convention Center:

"This wasn't just one man's decision," Mayor Ronnie C. Harris said Thursday. "The whole community backs it."

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"We say we're from New Orleans, but we're a suburb," he said. "The reason we don't live there is we don't like the crime, the politics."

Ribaul was among Gretna residents who praised the decision to close the bridge. "It makes you feel safe to live in a city like that," he said.

- Thad

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..."The reason we don't live there is we don't like the crime, the politics."

I agree with this Thad. I would hate to think of what would happen to our small city of Hagerstown, if the population of Washington D.C. decide to 'flood' our area!

Ouch! If I wanted to live with people like that I would. But I don't and I expect our local governemnt and police to ensure our security. That is their job...and they did it much better than the local govenment of NEW ORLEANS -- Who ran away!

Steven


Steven

LOL when will these idiots learn? There will be a civil rights lawsuit; and by the time it's over, Gretna will be bankrupt.

..."LOL when will these idiots learn? There will be a civil rights lawsuit; and by the time it's over, Gretna will be bankrupt".

I guess Gary you were assuming that they were all black -- which I wasn't.

So I suppose if they were all black, then in the great name of affirmative action, Grenta should have let them all in and burn down whatever they wanted!


Ouch! If I wanted to live with people like that I would. But I don't and I expect our local governemnt and police to ensure our security. That is their job...and they did it much better than the local govenment of NEW ORLEANS -- Who ran away!

The local government didn't "run away". Some policemen in the one of the lowest paying cities in the US turned in their badges..after seeing their own homes destroyed and after getting no help from the feds. Don't exaggerate an already bad situation. That's idiotic.

Justifying what the people in Gretna did is disgusting. They turned away starving, sick people because they were selfish and frightened. It's inexcusable.

..."The reason we don't live there is we don't like the crime, the politics."

The reason I don't live in the deep South is because I don't like southerners and bigots. But I wouldn't refuse food, water and shelter to them if they were fleeing a catastrophe.

Unless they were from Gretna.

"The reason we don't live there is we don't like the crime, the politics."

Can't you hear how that sentence continues? ". . . the slang, the baggy jeans, the way they look at our daughters, that 'jazz'. . . ."

Turning those people away was morally reprehensible in and of itself, Racism or no.

Someone ought to organize a March of Shame, make it part of Mardi Gras. The parade can cross the bridge and everyone goes through Gretna chanting 'Shame! Shame!'

Never forget.

..."Some black Gretna residents also speak fearfully of New Orleans. "We don't have as much killing over here as in New Orleans," said Leslie Anne Williams, 42."

My oh my, I guess there are some black people who want to protect their property too!

Shame on them!


I live in DC and you couldn't pay me a million bucks even if it were the last refuge on earth to go anywhere near Hagerstown, Steven. And Hagerstown isn't exactly across the bridge, either.

You're right -- protecting potential property damage is much more important than people's lives, Steven.

And the sick, the elderly, the young mothers and their children, the medical professionals that were turned away, they were clearly going to go on a rampage if they were allowed within Gretna city limits.

Don't miss the amazing photo gallery on the right-hand side of the page of the LA times page linked to above.

My oh my, I guess there are some black people who want to protect their property too!

Shame on them!

It isn't about racism. It's about classicism. It just so happens that many in the poverty class in that region are black.

The hottest places in Hell are reserved for people whose property means more to them than the lives of those in peril.

If the people of Gretna were in danger and they'd lost everything, I'd welcome them to my home. And not just out of compassion for their loss...but to demonstrate how decent people treat those less fortunate.

It's completely fucked the way that common decency has escaped this community.

It isn't about racism. It's about classicism.

Funniest typo ever.

Actually, Steven is pretty much dead on. Like Jonathan Swift and Jello Biafra before him, he's just engaging in satire about the moral bankruptcy in treating a living poor person as dangerous and useless.

Or he's serious, in which case he's pretty much a rabidly immoral and un-cChristian sack of bile and bigotry.

"It isn't about racism. It's about classicism".

You are right Carla...If people would quit shouting racism, and instead follow the money trail -- You would find that racism is mainly green (greed).

The more you have I think the more selfish you have to be, and the more frighten you become -- It is a natural response! On a personal (spiritual) level I think this is something that each person should try to overcome, but (and this is the part no one seems to like), on a govenment level this selfishness is necessary. Their job as a govenment is to protect their own citizens first! That I believe is their primary role, which I also believe is Not What the Government of Louisiana did -- they left their poor behind, and ask everyone else not to be as selfish as they were!

Just give it some thought

Steven

I don't think it matters whether it's about racism, clasicism, or organometallic chemistry. That's all secondary to the fact that it's about moral depravity and the lack of humanity. It's about seeing people dying and deciding to kick them instead of helping them.

Presumably some of the people who decided to do this call themselves Christians. They might want to reread what Jesus said about helping one's neighbors.

There were no doubt white people on that bridge, but the overwhelming majority were not white. We all know it, we just like to take refuge in the perverse idea that our greed is a more becoming excuse for bad behavior. Or something.

Unless I seriously slept through torts, I would think that every person who was turned away by the Gretna police has an action against the town/city whatever it is on a number of different common law theories. They may or may not have an action for alleged violations of their civil rights. And certainly, there could be a memorial march . . .

This is not a matter of the government of Gretna refusing to let those fleeing New Orleans break into the homes of Gretna residents to sleep, or commandeer their cars to get to Houston. This is a matter of a municipality closing off a public road -- one that is open in ordinary circumstances -- precisely because so many needed to use it. This isn't about property rights, unless you think a municipal corporation "owns" everything under its governance.

Gretna's police actions are an example of a government blocking the internal mobility American citizens out of fear, not protecting their citizens' property.

Refusing to let people use the public streets, highways, and bridges because of where they're from is a violation of their civil rights, whether they're black, white, brown, or purple with green polka dots.

"It isn't about racism. It's about classicism".

Just how many classicists live in Gretna? Does Tulane have a large classics department?

..."This is a matter of a municipality closing off a public road"

Hmmm, it seems many cities (New York would be a good example) do this all the time, especially during protest marches! I guess for these reasons it's ok to block off streets, after all it is a liberal city and it certainly needs to protect local business from what might happen!

I think you are wrong Barbara

Steven, I was unaware that citizens of NO were denied access to the public streets of Grenta becuase they might have interfered with a civil rights march the being held there that day. Thanks for clearing that up.

"Steven, I was unaware that citizens of NO were denied access to the public streets of Grenta becuase they might have interfered with a civil rights march the being held there that day. Thanks for clearing that up".

No problem djw, maybe they just didn't have a permit. If they did then they could have locked them up in a big cage like they did in New York, which by the way seemed to be alright with eveyone in the news media!


So I suppose if they were all black, then in the great name of affirmative action, Grenta should have let them all in and burn down whatever they wanted!

Christ on a Bike. I haven't seen so much hatred and ignorance compacted into a single sentence since the last time I accidentally clicked a link to Michelle Malkin's site.

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